“Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” – Miles Davis
*****
When a ship sinks, it can take a long time to go under. But once it starts to go, it will fall quickly and silently to the bottom of the sea, to lie undisturbed forever. There is a small chance it may be discovered by an intrepid diver who lives for the simple thrill of shining light on dark places, but far more likely, it will not.
An album can travel the same progression of futility: A lot of nothing – followed by a rapid descent to the bottom. And like a ship, it can take a lot of good people and precious cargo down with it.
There are so many forces at work that it’s impossible to say why some albums succeed where others fail (take a look at any Top 40 from the 1970’s and this mystery grows exponentially). But it is easy to see that many lousy albums do well (Mmmm Bop anyone?) and great ones don’t. Unfortunately the charts – like life – just ain’t fair.
Many of my favorite musical discoveries have been preceded by phrases like “the records on the floor in the back are all a buck” or “my brother was going to throw these out and I knew you had a turntable”. As Jacques Cousteau could tell you, the best stuff is often found where nobody is looking.
Of course, many more finds have come the old-fashioned way: by word of mouth. And for that I owe a debt of gratitude to my fellow subversives who are willing to look beneath the surface (or buy an outdated format) to find something unusual and worthwhile in a world full of too much shiny, pre-packaged junk.
In the spirit of passing it on, here are the albums and artists that I feel were most unfairly left to sink. The names may be unfamiliar, and the songs aren’t the soundtracks to anyone’s youth or commercials, but each of these records shine, like pearls hidden on the floor of a deep black ocean.
Paul K & The Weathermen – Love Is A Gas (1997)
• Paul Kopasz has spent time in jail for heroin possession, and has drawn upon this checkered history to create a string of excellent and cynical albums. He has enjoyed marginal success in Europe, but his albums continue to be ignored in the States in spite of critical acclaim. Love Is A Gas contains no two songs remotely alike, but the whole thing works like a mad jigsaw puzzle, including lights-out covers of Stevie Wonder’s ‘Jesus Children Of America’ and Queen’s ‘You’re My Best Friend’.
The Long Ryders – Native Sons (1984)
• Native Sons has the unique ability to sound like a familiar favorite upon first listen. That’s because the seeds of all that would become alt-country are planted right here, and the list of bands influenced include R.E.M., Uncle Tupelo/Wilco/Son Volt, Whiskeytown, and dozens of others. In fact, the list of those drafting off The Long Ryders’ sound reads like a who’s who of 90’s rock, marking them as a hidden influencer on par with the Velvet Underground.
Dr. Feelgood – Down By The Jetty (1974)
• This – their 1974 debut – put Dr. Feelgood at the forefront of the English pub rock bands that were later swept away by the rising tide of punk. As evidenced here, they brought raw energy and tight riffs to every one of their albums and live shows, and were one of the few bands outside of punk to actually earn the widespread respect and attention of punk artists.
The Stairs – Mexican R ‘n’ B (1992)
• The classic case of the right sound at the wrong time, The Stairs’ raw, garage rock-meets-blues sound could have been (and eventually would become) the Next Big Thing. But Mexican R ‘n’ B was released at the height of grunge, and made no impact on any chart. This offbeat masterpiece has been out of print since shortly after going into print, which explains why you could fit everyone who knows it into a large elevator – a crying shame.
Radio Birdman – Radios Appear
• Radio Birdman blasted onto the Aussie punk scene with their debut Radios Appear. Founder Deniz Tek hailed from Ann Arbor, MI (home to The Stooges and MC5), which helps partly explain the ahead-of-its- time velocity and swagger of this album. They waited a critical three years before following it up and dozens of bands rushed in to fill the punk product void. Birdman broke up after their second album was poorly received, and found themselves relegated to the ‘often cited but rarely heard’ bin. Tek would later form bands featuring ex-members of the Stooges & MC5, but never again approached this pure blue flame.
Wipers – Youth Of America (1981)
• Wipers – led by mastermind Greg Sage – have toiled away in self-imposed D.I.Y. obscurity for more than two decades. Their relentless, hard-driving sound is neither punk nor metal, but matches either for sheer determination and menace. Youth Of America’s 10-minutes-plus title track is a dark journey through barren wasteland, over a highway of broken glass. Wipers have pointedly avoided the mainstream, but their influence has seeped through nonetheless: a young Kurt Cobain was a big fan, and partly modeled the sound of his band (and consequently, his generation) on this.
Monks – Black Monk Time (1966)
• Henry Rollins likes Monks, and you should too. In the mid-sixties, these proto-proto-proto-punks decided to vent their spleen at being stationed as GIs in Germany by dressing in robes and shaving their heads like monks (imagine a flattop with a reverse Mohawk) and playing the most blistering music they could. The results are so undeniably punk that it’s hard to see why these guys don’t ever get mentioned in the same breath as other forefathers of that genre.
Gun Club – Fire Of Love (1981)
• Gun Club rode a hybrid, slide-guitar blues-meets-punk sound straight into obscurity. This Los Angeles quartet, fronted by troubled singer Jeffrey Lee Pierce, counted many musicians and critics among their fans, but their tweener sound and Pierce’s struggles with drugs and alcohol were too much to overcome. Pierce launched an equally fruitless solo career in ’85, passed away in ’96, and Gun Club’s harrowing, ghost-out-of-hell albums – including this excellent debut – have slipped into the shadows.
ESG – A South Bronx Story (1983)
• The Scroggins sisters – Deborah (bass, vocals), Marie (congas, vocals), Renee (vocals, guitar), and Valerie (drums) – formed ESG when their mother bought them instruments to keep them off the streets and out of trouble. In short order they went from a rough group of untalented musicians (alas, Ma Scroggins couldn’t afford lessons to go with the instruments) to a unique, female-driven funk act. They reportedly started writing their own songs so that audiences wouldn’t know when they messed up covers. And while ESG’s reputation grew during the 90’s because they were endlessly sampled, their own music was so generally ignored that they named a 1993 release Sample Credits Don’t Pay Our Bills.
Cymande – Cymande (1973)
• Cymande was a highly influential but ultimately short-lived group featuring musicians from several Caribbean and African countries. Their self-titled debut is a perfect snapshot of its era, combining African rhythms with abundant percussion, sultry funk and quasi-politically aware lyrics. They barely cracked the Top 40, made just two more albums and called it quits. In recent years, Cymande has enjoyed critical re-appraisal, and many of their tracks have been sampled, but this nine-member funk dynamo should be known by more than just critics and beat-grafters.
Michael Viner’s Incredible Bongo Band – Bongo Rock (1973)
• The Incredible Bongo Band was formed to make a single track for the soundtrack to an early 70’s horror film. When that track went to #1 in Canada, the label (undoubtedly smelling money) asked for a full-length follow up. From there it should have been a short hop to obscurity, but a funny thing happened on the way to the dustbin; a house party DJ in the South Bronx named Kool Herc used 2 copies of the record as a way to keep his crowds moving – making it the first breakbeat album ever. The music from those parties is now considered to be the cornerstone of the hip-hop culture and sample-based music. Mojo calls it – no joke – “possibly the most influential album in the history of post-60’s popular music.”
Mutiny – Mutiny On The Mamaship (1979)
• After Jerome ‘Bigfoot’ Brailey split from the Parliament/Funkadelic camp (he was the funky drummer on Mothership Connection and others) because of money disputes, he formed Mutiny and released this blistering indictment of former boss George Clinton that reaches the same highs as the P-Funk mob at their best. After this and a second album both tanked, Mutiny was suddenly without a record contract (a fate that would also befall Clinton around the same time) and disbanded in the early 80’s. This is the rarest of commodities – an overlooked funk diamond.
James Luther Dickinson – Dixie Fried (1972)
• Name-checked as a mentor by Dylan in Chronicles, Vol. 1, Jim Dickinson is the ultimate musician’s musician. In addition to playing as a sideman on countless classic albums, he’s produced artists as diverse as Primal Scream, Ry Cooder, and Mudhoney. Featuring an uncredited Eric Clapton on guitar, Dixie Fried is the very definition of hidden gem. Every track crackles with wit and energy, and Dickinson portrays myriad characters with a humorous tongue and sympathetic ear. This was his lone album until 2003’s Free Beer Tomorrow – which was 30 years in the making, equally brilliant and well worth the wait.
ZZ Top – ZZ Top’s First Album (1970)
• Before the Santa beards, pimpin’ rides, sexy ladies, MTV videos and multi-platinum success of Eliminator, ZZ Top were once an honest to goodness – and damned impressive – Blues band with a capital B. The proof is right here on an album that’s as laid back and true as its title.
Michael Nesmith & The First National Band – Magnetic South (1970)
• Yes indeed, it’s true: Michael Nesmith of the Monkees was actually a pretty talented musician. His three albums with The First National Band mark him as a forefather of country-rock, quite possibly on par with Gram Parsons (your call whether this is a positive or negative mark). Nesmith kept the FNB together for just a few years before moving on to tend his business interests, which included helping to found MTV. But you have to wonder what might have been had he not been packing around the Monkees stigma way back when.
Gene Clark – No Other (1974)
• For an album allegedly made on transcontinental rails of cocaine, No Other sounds surprisingly focused and is bathed in an almost spiritual glow. The entire breadth of this ex-Byrd’s solo career is overlooked, but this is the album that should have made him a star in his own right. The fact that it didn’t was reportedly a blow (no pun intended) that he never recovered from.
John Phillips – John Wolfking Of LA (1970)
• Phillips panned this solo album in his autobiography Papa John, saying “The lead singer seemed groggy.” While the raw, ragged sound was the antithesis of The Mamas & Papas’ California sunshine, Wolfking is a fascinating and bracing journey through the dark side of the Laurel Canyon star scene of the early ‘70’s. Papa John explains its quick demise: “It was DOA in the record stores.”
Terry Reid – River (1973)
• Reid is most well known for turning down the lead singer’s spot in a new band Jimmy Page was forming that would become Led Zeppelin (Reid also graciously recommended an unknown young frontman named Robert Plant). His soaring and beautiful River should have overshadowed that anecdote, but the album never found its audience. Though re-issued to raves on disc a few years back, it’s too little recognition far too late for this talented guitarist and top-flight, multi-octave singer.
Rodriguez – Cold Fact (1970)
• Sixto Rodriguez should have been huge. Blessed with a gritty yet warm voice, an acoustic guitar, and a whole mess of lyrics about how fucked up the world was, he had everything one could have wanted in a 70’s singer/songwriter. But his lone album – 1970’s Cold Fact – went nowhere, and he disappeared. He gained a strong cult following in Australia during the 80’s that enabled him to tour that country and somewhat revive his music career, but really, this guy should have been huge.
Dennis Wilson – Pacific Ocean Blue (1977)
• Beach Boys’ drummer Dennis Wilson was generally thought of as a skirt-chasing, boneheaded surfer and longtime rider of older brother Brian’s coattails. When he made this overlooked masterpiece, he promptly changed the mind of anyone fortunate enough to hear these mini-symphonies that are as inventive as anything his prodigy bro’ conjured up. Then he died in 1983, and left us with a lot of what-ifs and enough odds and sods for another, equally unrecognized gem, Bamboo.
Alexander ‘Skip’ Spence – Oar (1969)
• Oar begs the question: can an album be called underrated so many times that it starts to become overrated? Ex-Moby Grape drummer Spence was in the midst of losing his mind when he recorded this rambling, epic, and sparsely beautiful ode to all and nothing. At times the songs lose their structure and way, but the net effect is nothing short of mesmerizing. It is reportedly the worst-selling album in the long history of Columbia records.
Fred Neil – Fred Neil (1967)
• Never quite emerging from the Greenwich Village folk scene that spawned Dylan and others, Fred Neil released just three proper albums in a four-year career. By the early 70’s he had dropped out of the music industry to live out his life in seclusion in South Florida, where he passed away in 2001. The fact that this incredible singer/songwriter and unique voice isn’t a household name (and is best known for Harry Nilsson’s cover of ‘Everybody’s Talkin’ for the Midnight Cowboy soundtrack) is a cultural travesty. If anyone’s music deserves a Volkswagen-ad boost yielding widespread rediscovery and overdue respect, it’s Fred Neil.
25 More That Deserved Better…
Swamp Dogg – I’m Not Selling Out/I’m Buying In
The Peddlers – Suite London
Graham Parker – The Mona Lisa’s Sister
Bauhaus – Burning From The Inside
Barry & The Remains – The Best Of
Marah – Kids In Philly
Temple Of The Dog – Temple Of The Dog
J.K. & Co. – Suddenly One Summer
Pretty Things – S.F. Sorrow
Hank Mobley – The Turnaround
Bonzo Dog Doodah Band – Gorilla
Various Artists – Wild Style Soundtrack
Josh Ritter – Golden Age Of Radio
Michelle Shocked – Short Sharp Shocked
Stereo MC’s – Supernatural
Shorty Baker/Doc Cheatham – Shorty & Doc
John Martyn – Solid Air
DJ Hurricane – The Hurrah
Gary Higgins – Red Hash
A3 – Exile On Coldharbour Lane
D.R. Hooker – The Truth
Roy Harper – Stormcock
Moby Grape – Moby Grape
Slaid Cleaves – Broke Down
Alejandro Escovedo – A Man Under The Influence
And 10 That Are Grossly Overrated…
• Bruce Springsteen – Born To Run • I’ve tried (and tried and tried…) to hear the unparalleled masterpiece the critics all rave about. Every time I read a superlative review, I get all jacked up about this, but in the end, all I ever hear is just a decent bar band taking 8 minutes to play 3 minute songs.
• Jimmy Buffett – Any album • Until somebody sits me down and explains how Jimmy Buffett is anything more than just the 70’s nautical version of Weird Al Yankovic (which, by the way, perfectly nails my beef with his music) I’ll have no clue how this guy can sell out a bar, let alone a 25,000 seat amphitheatre.
• The Eagles – Hotel California • The Eagles have always reminded me of the too-popular kids in class whose status was based 100% on style and 0% on substance (I’m guessing every school has a couple of these). Exhibit A in any prosecution of the 70’s as a bloated, soul-less, nothing of a music decade, this album has no business near a turntable, let alone any Best Of All-Time lists.
• The Who – Tommy • Easily the lamest “concept” album of all-time. Let’s see… a deaf, “dumb” and blind kid plays pinball? Bartender, make mine a double. Unless the hidden meaning here is that in the future, people will cringe and/or laugh at the thought of Rock Operas, there’s nothing terribly brilliant about any of this.
• Smashing Pumpkins – Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness • Gish and Siamese Dream were epic slabs of 90’s rock at it’s best, but this lame follow-up reaped all the big sales (nearly 10 million) and critical acclaim. Billy Corgan whines throughout, and this sprawling double album has barely enough good songs for a single disc. You could cull it down to a listenable ep, but I won’t.
• Dave Matthews Band – Crash • Last fall I took a river tour of Chicago, and passed under the infamous spot where the DMB unloaded the contents of their tour bus bathroom on an unsuspecting boatload of people. The options are so plentiful that I’ll let you create your own metaphors for how that story relates to the music.
• Captain Beefheart – Trout Mask Replica • Continually shows up on Best Of All-Time lists, and I can never figure out why. It’s an incomprehensible mess from start to (double-album!!) finish, and the Cap’n has a trio of other albums (Safe As Milk, Clear Spot, and The Spotlight Kid) more rocking and listener friendly. On the bright side, this album will clear your unwanted houseguests in a matter of minutes.
• Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP • Any critic that places this on their Best Of All-Time list ahead of Eric B. & Rakim (and too many have) should be stripped of their credentials – and pants. And I think Em would probably agree with the spirit of what I’m saying here (if only the pantsing the critics part).
• Jefferson Airplane – Surrealistic Pillow • Contains a couple of good tracks, but overall this album sounds flat and has aged poorly. Grace Slick’s voice has always been like nails on a chalkboard to me, so maybe I’m not listening with the right set of ears.
• The Beatles – Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band • Greatest album of all time? It’s probably no better than the 6th (and quite possibly the 7th) best Beatles album (running behind the White Album, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul, and Beatles For Sale – and neck-and-neck with the underrated Let It Be). Admittedly, that’s a murderer’s row of great albums, but until I can rent a time machine to experience its ‘cultural impact’ first hand, I’m calling it overrated.
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Tags: Bruce Springsteen, Captain Beefheart, Cymande, Dave Matthews Band, Dennis Wilson, Dr. Feelgood, Eminem, ESG, Fred Neil, Gene Clark, Gun Club, James Luther Dickinson, Jefferson Airplane, Jimmy Buffett, John Phillips, Michael Nesmith & The First National Band, Monks, Mutiny, Paul K & The Weathermen, Radio Birdman, Rodriquez, Skip Spence, Smashing Pumpkins, Terry Reid, The Beatles, The Eagles, The Incredible Bongo Band, The Long Ryders, The Stairs, The Who, Wipers, ZZ Top
29 May 2007 at 12:10 am |
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2 June 2007 at 12:23 am |
This is going to take me a month to go through. Thanks for putting your ideas down in pixels.
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27 January 2008 at 5:55 pm |
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12 February 2008 at 7:24 pm |
my fair sir u are indeed most entirely retarded. why in the name of Maniac Mcgee is your problem. how can u say that sgt pepper’s is grossly over rated! ur going to hell. I CONDEM THEE TO DAMNATION. oh and by the way what the fuck was tht smashing pumpkins thing? oh and surealistic pillow is amazing. how about Nevermind by Nirvana or Metallica’s Black Album come on man. Or hell even Back In Black though i must say i have tallied some play counts on itunes with that. anyway u have obviously know idea what you are talking about so shut up!
12 February 2008 at 8:23 pm |
Ranting in defense of Sgt Pepper’s is fairly understandable.
Ranting in defense of Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness however, is strangely puzzling.
I’m simply passing along my opinion here. Feel free to agree or disagree as you see fit…
BTW, next time you talk to John Lennon, tell him I said hello!
20 October 2008 at 12:04 pm |
Agreed with “the marshall mathers LP” classic hip-hop album but “illmatic” and “paid in full” are alot better.I think even eminem said rakim was the greatest rapper of all time himself and he wouldnt say that the marshall mathers lp was a top 10 hip-hop album its a top 20 one but not top 10.
As far as hip-hop goes its not nearly as overrated as “all eyez on me” by 2pac witch was almost almost completly filler with the occasional great song and the 2nd disc is garbage.2pac in general is the most overrated man in hip-hop history other than “me against the world” witch is a classic the rest of his albums ranged from pretty good to mediocre.
I would agree with “sgt peppers lonley hearts club band” I like revolver alot better and even the white album might be a little bit better I got sgt peppers at like 8th on my greatest albums list
20 October 2008 at 12:06 pm |
ohh,and as far as overrated the black album by metallica and nevermind by nirvana both classics but clearly not top 50 or even 100 for that matter.
20 October 2008 at 11:13 pm |
I like ‘Nevermind’ just fine, but I’m glad you mention it here, because I think it was the same kind of album as ‘Sgt Pepper’ – ie, if you weren’t around when it dropped to see the way it affected people, you’re missing a big part of the story.
I think that’s exactly why ‘Nevermind’ is a big deal for me, and ‘Sgt Pepper’ has always seemed relatively overrated. And keep in mind, this is coming from the guy who did this.
11 December 2011 at 4:33 pm |
Dkpresents, you nailed it on the head!!! We are all ENTOMBED in the music of our youth and everything else is ‘noise to our ears. My parents are into Frank Sinatra and my friend’s kids are into Eminem et al. I have both on my Ipod which I listen when I’m bored but ‘it’s not MY MUSIC; it doesn’t define who I am!!!
I h-a-t-e Nevermind. I hate it not for what it sounds like (great stuff) but for what it represents—the death of Post Punk (my gen’s music). Post Punk was 1979-1994 or JoyDivision to Nurvana. Nurvana was Grunge/Alternative/Indy stuff and my music is 80′s College Radio. We all carry our likes and prejudices around like Jesus his Cross—its what makes us human. For many people rock died in Y2K!!!
As for SGT Pepper, it is not my FAVOURITE LP, Revolver was, and is Elbows & A-holes better than SGT Pepper. However, that wasn’t your question. Your question is what is the most ‘over-rated’ LP and SGT Pepper is not ‘over-rated’. Is ‘Starry Night’ by Van Gogh overrated? NO. Can you dislike it? Yes!!! Revolver was the Beatles acting ‘Artsy & Cute’—but they were stil the four lads from Liverpool. W/ SGT Pepper they hit the stratusphere and became Rock & Roll Demi-Gods. Pre SPLHCB, they were musicians, Post SPLHCB the Beatles became the ‘immortals’ of rock’s pantheon.
Wanna see a Geezer like me whine. There will NEVER be another SGT Pepper. Why? People won’t fire up a J, put on the record, turn off the lights and let the Artiste guide him/her through their entire vision. Now adays, I audition CDs in 4 second increments—keep a few and spike the rest—so goes for Artiste Vision!!! Who has the money these days to produce a costly CD of 12 songs when the consumer is only going to keep 3-4 and shitcan the rest. Do you know 1/8th of Record Company profits are from idiot 6 second Ring Tones for cell phones?!!! THAT is why almost all hip-hop artistes are partnering with cars, cognac, cigars and clothing (C4)—there is no money in music anymore. Consequently Music today is nothing than a tune within a commercial. Like Hearing the Beatles ‘All you need is LOVE’ sandwiched between LUVs Diapers placements!!!
19 November 2008 at 5:24 am |
Nice list and good topic. My vote for the most overlooked rock album of all time would have to go to “Powertrip” by Monster Magnet. GREAT album by a totally missed band! Sooo much better then a lot of the crap has floated to the top. Fun, inspired, rocking, slightly feeling their drug-rock roots, this album is one of my all-time personal favorites.
19 November 2008 at 8:17 am |
That’s a new one to me. Thanks for the recco – I’ll be sure to check it out…
22 June 2009 at 10:10 pm |
I like Tadpoles by the Bonzo Dog Band better than Gorilla. I love Sgt. Pepper, but agree that Revolver and Rubber Soul are better. YES to the Long Ryders. How about Danny & Dusty’s ‘The Lost Weekend’. Long weekend? You know the one.
23 June 2009 at 11:08 am |
Regarding Jimmy Buffet…keep in mind I have never personally spun an album of his, but grew up with sisters and parents who did, and am somewhat familiar with his older stuff. It struck me funny that the second to last sentence of your James Luther Dickinson review could easily be used to describe what my take on Jimmy Buffet is and does. Free Beer… even sounds like a potential JB album title. Should they tour together?
luv ya dank.
24 June 2009 at 8:01 am |
The “raised on…” exemption is absolutely always in play here. It’s the main reason I genuinely enjoy Wings and Neil Diamond – my mom used to play their albums and that music reminds me of being a kid. Hard to beef with that.
You make a good point on the JB/JLD comparison. Beauty’s in the ear of the beholder…
Always good to see you on here BE. Hoping to tip a few back with you in Eugene in a couple of weeks…
28 June 2009 at 9:46 am |
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29 June 2009 at 1:57 pm |
Jimmy Buffett Appreciation Guide:
Step 1: Get a copy of either- Living and Dying in 3/4 Time, A1A, or A White Sport Coat and a Pink Crustacean (these are his greatest 3 albums, from early in his career).
Step 2: Get out an ice cold can of your favorite beverage, chips and salsa, and prop your feet up on the table.
Step 3: Play the music, and enjoy.
P.S.
It helps to live in Florida…
1 July 2009 at 7:40 am |
your most overrated list reeks of you trying to prove a dumb “i am so into music I am above just what was/is popular”
1 July 2009 at 8:55 am |
Maybe I’m missing the meaning of the word ‘overrated’, but in my world it’s pretty difficult for something to be considered overrated unless it was wildly popular to begin with. So yeah, of course, by it’s very nature this list is going to include music that’s been celebrated.
If you think I secretly like The Eagles and this is just a tough-guy front to hide my true feelings, I invite you to find another blog to read – one where Don Henley, Glenn Frey, and all the children of the world join hands and sing together in harmony. Every word I put down here is 100% honest and from the heart, and it galls me that some turd with an 8-year old’s name can roll in here and question my integrity.
Next time you think about leaving a comment in this space, I suggest you and your 25-watt brain round up a dictionary first…
18 September 2009 at 1:53 am |
dkpresents, I found this most refreshing. You are spot on and saying what some of us have been saying for years. You’re so right about ‘Trout Mask’ and ‘Born To Run’. Woeful stuff! I’d like to add any album by U2 or Red Hot Chilli Peppers: both bands are eminently dull, cliche-ridden and vastly overrated.
As for the ovelooked check out Stray (early seventies English hard rock), any album by the mighty Warrior Soul or Small Faces. I’m so glad you mentioned Roy Harper: he is simply a genius who has criminally been overlooked.
Cheers from Scotland.
18 September 2009 at 6:49 am |
Thanks for the reccos and the kind words MM – both are appreciated…
29 October 2009 at 1:08 pm |
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13 January 2010 at 11:04 am |
Probably not the best idea ever to take a good post about music that’s flying under the radar and end it by wandering into cliched territory about a set of predictable albums that your high school friends/parents love that you didn’t like. You really had an epic post going until that point. Unless you’re writing a snark blog (which suck, by the way) then stick to what you can recommend, not what you can tear down.
13 January 2010 at 7:22 pm |
OK, sure, I can understand this point of view. But after discussing the most underrated albums, it seemed pretty natural to segue into the most overrated albums. Whether that’s cliched territory (or whether this is a “snark blog”) is up to you – I just call ‘em as I see ‘em. However, I take exception with the idea that these are “predictable albums” that my “high school friends/parents love” that I didn’t. In addition to being vaguely patronizing, it implies that I have some sort of long-standing grudge against those albums, which simply isn’t true. I understand the concept of “if you can’t say anything nice…” but because this is my blog, I get to choose what I write about. For the most part (I’d estimate 99% of the time) I stay on the sunny side of the street, but sometimes I feel like calling out an album I don’t like or don’t get. If that rubs you the wrong way, so be it. And if that’s the case, you’ll definitely not want to look here, here or here.
6 April 2010 at 1:18 pm |
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19 April 2010 at 8:31 am |
Great topic and well written.
In defence of Trout Mask Replica, this ( and other ) album(s) come from a place and time. Its not entirely about the songs in their pure analysis as pop artifacts. For example, in 1954, Elvis’s “thats alright now mama” was a brooding chunk of teen angst, now its an old timey country curio. When “Trout Mask” came out, it was a wild and crazy piece of psuedo-intellectual nonsense that purposefully mocked itself while obliquely referring to many issues that trad pop and underground music ignored. I don’t know how it would appear to someone listening to it out of its time, but I loved it then, and will still defend it, if anyone will stand still to listen :)
7 May 2010 at 1:35 pm |
I forgot (how could I?) the fantastic Supersuckers. They should be huge. Or Shooter Jennings. He’s very talented. As for overrated albums there’s also anything by the unashamedly mediocre Oasis: dull, dull, dull.
Cheers fella.
7 May 2010 at 2:46 pm |
Thanks for the additions. I totally agree about Oasis…
29 May 2010 at 9:22 pm |
It is because of you that The Gun Club are one of my all time favorite bands. From a young, aspiring rock critic, thank you for this entire list.
30 May 2010 at 9:15 am |
Thanks K.A.! I really appreciate that…
31 May 2010 at 12:39 am |
Totally agree with you on the Beatles and Smashing Pumpkins.
Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness, that was a steaming pile, always believed it should have been one disc, not a double.
As for The Beatles I’ll go as far to say, that not one of their albums was truly great or masterpieces they are claimed to be. They closest they got was Abbey Road, but even then they had to let Ringo louse it up with Octopus’s Garden, Maxwell’s Silver Hammer wasn’t much better either.
Onto under-rated albums, you could throw in Suicide’s first or second album, they are more well known now, but at the time they were quite poorly received.
Also Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Music, the album was considered so bad it was pulled from shelves and people returned the album believing the vinyl was defective. However this album can be considered a birthplace for sound art, industrial and to a lesser extent electronica music.
11 December 2011 at 3:46 pm |
Obviously, you are going to get me to disagree on SGT Pepper. SGT Pepper is almost 50 years old (I can’t effin believe it) so it may appear ‘dated’ to your TWEEN Sensibilities (Eminem, anyone?). Still, you had to have been there (SF Summer of Love’67). I was a die hard Beach Boys fan until Pet Sounds came out. I felt betrayed that they ‘went British Invasion’ on me. Then I put on Revolver and my jaw dropped. The Beach Boys weren’t as good as the Beatles!!!A straight ahead rocker with strings only (Elenore Rigby)? Preposterous!!! Tomorrow Never Knows? How do you dance to that?!!! Then Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields forever came out and the world and I waited on baited breath for the follow up—and the Beatles Delivered!!! FYI, Macca gave Brian Wilson an advance copy and he had a mental breakdown over it; Mick & Keith were ‘Shattered’ by it. It was like Moses gave us hippies the tablets.
MY CHOICES for Obscure Underrated LPS
1. FOREVER CHANGES: LOVE (1967) America’s answer to SGT Pepper. Absolutely priceless lyrics “Oh, the snot has dried against my pants; it has turned to Chrystal. There’s a blue-bird sitting on a branch…I will take out my pistol!!!
2. Captured in Ice 17 Pygmies (1983) Post-Punk personified. Every tune is catchy and sticks to your mind like peanut butter to your tongue
3. After Science(?) Brian Eno (1974?) Professor Eno was post punk before there was even punk!!! Like watching Nostriadomus sing.
4. All the Time, All the time, All the Time The BOX (1985) Georgeous French Canadian sound—I hussle drinks at the bar playing Walking on the Moon (Police) with Remnants (the Box) following and then demanding what Police LP it is off of!!!
5. Three Months, Three Weeks Two days-Bill Pritchard (1986). Stunning Post Punk LP—this guy effortlessly throws in French phraises. Awesome tunes/Byting satire. He became a French teacher in Canada and his students were dumbstuck when his music was played for them—MY GOD, he sings of hookers and prego 19yr olds and he’s my 3D Period french teacher?!!! Whaaat?
6. It’s History: Comstat Angels. CSA was the bleeding edge of Post Punk with intense, angular guitar attacks (think Killing Joke). This collection holds their first three LPS. After Land, they repackaged their sound unsuccessfully—even becoming a Geezer Grunge band?
23 January 2012 at 2:27 am |
Feh… nothing on this list makes me think you know what you are talking about. Why not just call the article, “I’m so cool, no one likes the music I do.” Because that seems like your point.
7 February 2012 at 6:39 pm |
How do I explain music appreciation to the great unwashed?!!! Well Rich, my Bitch, let me see if I can TRY. First of all, there is no such thing as GOOD MUSIC or BAD MUSIC. If the tunes don’t pump yer ‘nads, it doesn’t matter how brilliant or overly cliched it is…of course, a well heeled lad like you must have known that before you put your finger to iPhone or nose?!!!
I stated my choices for my top six under-rated CDs and I stand by them. These are MY CHOICES. You don’t like my choices, don’t listen to them. You don’t think I know what I am talking about—blow me!!! Me? I give myself PROPS for posting recommendations so that little minds like yours could belittle them. I also noticed you never put up YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. What does this prove? I MAY HAVE LITTLE TASTE IN MUSIC—BUT YOU DEMONSTRATE NO TASTE AT ALL!!!
My final recommendation to you, RichBitch, is to grow up and grow a pair—post your selection(s) so that we can laugh at you. FYI, to prove that YOU, BitchRich don’t know what YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, consider the following:
1. Ask the critics at ALLMUSIC about FOREVER CHANGES.
2. Ask Rolling Stone about their top 100 LPs of all time and they will rave about FOREVER CHANGES and the impact it had on 60′s Rock&Roll.
3. Ask ANYONE who was around during the Summer of Love (1967) and they will tell you of its impact.
4. Ask The Beatles, the Stones, The Buffalo Springfield/CSNY about Forever Changes. Ask Jimi Hendrex, Janis Joplin, Simon&Garfunkel, the Kinks, the Who, Led LEP—about FOREVER CHANGES
5. Ask ANY Post Punk Band (Blonde, Police, REM, Echo & the Bunnymen, Souxie & the Banchees, Lloyd Cole & the Commotions, etc) about the impact of FOREVER CHANGES
6. Ask most Post-Post Alternative bands (or not—most people have written off Y2K bands as Post ROCK musicians ) and they’ll tell you of its influence.
7. I don’t know what I’m talking about? I think YOU are the one with the Pro-nown confusion—its Y-O-U who don’t know what YOU are talking about!!!
20 March 2012 at 6:03 pm |
Yawn.
3 February 2012 at 1:34 am |
Wow. I’ve had so many conversations with people about trying to find lost bands. This is a great list (tip of the iceberg) of bands that are missing the constant play of some of there contemporaries. I’m really diggin’ on Terry Reid, Gene Clark and Cymande. Thanks!
7 February 2012 at 12:02 pm |
Col. Bruce Hampton and the Aquarium Rescue Unit’s live first album is the best album noone has everheard of…..period.
24 April 2012 at 7:13 am |
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9 May 2012 at 5:56 am |
Strongly agree with the overrated albums, including Sgt. Peppers. While Sgt. Peppers is a great album, it’s hardly the Beatles best work. You can’t confuse the word “overrated” with bad. It’s not saying these albums are bad. Most of these are Excellent, but not as excellent as the “Press” would lead you to believe.
Lets face it. Most “well known” albums that receive great accolades are generally very good works, but most are also promoted to death. The music industry makes these decisions. Garbage (bad music, not the band) won’t sell regardless of how much it’s promoted.
There are so many good albums out there that never get radio play. The list above is very good. I’d like to add a few, not in any specific order….
1. Cowboy – Boyer and Talton
2. Clash – Sandinista!
3. Dreams – Imagine my surprise
4. Every album by Steve Earle
5. Jaco Pastorius – The Birthday Album
6. The Beach Boys – Sunflower
7. XTC – Skylarking
8. XTC – Every other album they made
9. the Wondermints – Mind if we make love to you?
10. Jellyfish – Bellybutton
11. Frank Zappa – Roxy and Elsewhere
12. Drive By Truckers – Southern Rock Opera
13. Sam Phillips – Creul Inventions
14. Sam Philliips – every other album she has done
15. Kirsty McColl – Electric Landlady
I could go on for hours. That’s just off the top of my head. Of course, any list is a matter of taste. It’s not for me to say what you should like vs. what I like. That’s what makes the world great.
27 May 2012 at 3:18 pm |
Another overlooked albums (no in specific order):
- Moondog I & II – Moondog
- 93 Til Infinite – Soul of Mischief
- Safe as Milk – Captain Beefheart
- I Wish my Brother George Was Here – Del the Funky Homosapien
- Sandinista! – The Clash
- Over-Nite Sensation – Frank Zappa
- Deltron 3030 – Deltron 3030
- The Good the Bad and the Queen – Damon Albarm and more
- Season of the Dead – Necrophagia
- Doc at the Radar – Captain Beefheart
- Infinite – Eminem